Catch-up on folks’ comments to the list…


Richard Moore

From: "Jim Porter" <•••@••.•••>
Organization: University of Windsor
To: •••@••.••• (Richard K. Moore)
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998
Subject: Re: Geneva Report: rkm presentation to NGO meeting


Thanks so much for your thorough review of the history of  the
struggle between capitalism and democracy. I disagree on only one
point -- your use of the term "revolution" to describe the coup
carried out by the transnational corporate elite. I prefer the term "coup"
to describe the taking of power by an elite, and the term
"revolution" to describe the taking of power by a popular movement of
the people.

Thanks again.

Jim Porter

From: "Adkins, Gerald" <•••@••.•••>
To: •••@••.•••
Subject: RE: Shift of strategy re/workshop; new mission for renaissance-ne
        twork list
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:48:11 -0700

Richard,   we can all  understand your feelings of disappointment
because the conference will not take place as you envisioned.  May I
suggest that you not personalize the situation.  Instead, keep in mind
that many of your followers/collaborators are underpaid wage slaves who
would relish being in a financial position to go to your conference, and
others like it, but simply can't afford to.  I'm sure our republic would
be in much better shape if more people,  than just the elite, could
participate in worthwhile political activities.  Please get your spirits
off the floor and remember just by your presence on the net, you are
able to give hope (and stimulate the gray cells) of many people who
previously thought they were the only ones who felt that our liberties
are in peril.   I trust you will take my comments in a positive way, and
not be discouraged by them.  Best regards.   Jerry.

G. C.  Adkins, M.S.
Human Resources Director
Saint Martin's College, Lacey, Wa.  98503-1297

Date: Sun, 24 May 1998
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From: Hans Sinn <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: about PGA and their materials...

rkm had written:

 >I agree with them that people need to be woken up to the need for action,
>etc. etc., and that occasional hyperbole may be justifiable in reporting,
 >but the continual publishing of fabrications can only backfire and
  >ultimately defeat the effectiveness of their propaganda efforts.

Well said Richard.



Date: Sat, 23 May 1998
To: •••@••.•••
From: Makere Harawira <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: about PGA and their materials...

So - how much is true and how much is `fabrication'? It's great to get well
written and pashionate reports provided they are grounded in reality.
For those of us who were/are not on the spot, what are the indicators please?

Makere Harawira


Dear Makere,

I'm not sure what you mean by `indicators'.  Do you mean how can you tell
from a press release whether it's accurate?  You can look for internal
inconsistencies, statements that don't fit common sense, things that are
obviously being left out, the self-interest of the witness, and you can
take into account the source that distributed it to you.

In the case of PGA's reports, they look fairly credible at first reading,
even if you were on the spot for some of it, and in fact I published their
material on several lists.  But when I read back over what they said about
Geneva, where I was present, I noticed they left out all mention of the
destruction and taunting by demonstators, as if all had been non-violent /
passive, and then I noticed how hyped the whole presentation was, how one
sided and inflammatory.

For me now, the source `PGA' comes with the indicator `hype', and any
channel that continues to post their stuff without comment, I would assign
the indicator `hype prone'.


Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:14:20 -0700
To: Patrick Borden <•••@••.•••>, •••@••.•••, •••@••.•••,
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From: CONNIE FOGAL <•••@••.•••>
Subject: aac-theoretical and tactical problem for the anarchist movement

Are any of the people listed here reading Michel Chossodovsky especially
his book the Globalization of Poverty. Some of his papers are on the internet.

Connie Fogal


[ And here's a message Connie sent to a different list...

Date: Sun, 24 May 1998
To: •••@••.•••
From: CONNIE FOGAL <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Chossodovsky on CHannel 4 and Coop radio
Mime-Version: 1.0

Take Note:

Professor Michel Chossodovsky's excellent presentation of May 22,1998 on
The Globalization of Poverty will be broadcast in BC:

Monday May 25,1998 12:00 noon Co-op Radio 102.7 FM radio  Brown Bagger Program

Sunday May 31,1998 11:00 AM Rogers Community Channel 4

This is one of the most important presentations available on the fundamental
 issues threatening society to day. Consider:

Could the financial collapse of Indonesia, Korea and others happen in Canada?

What role do the financial speculators and the International Monetary Fund
have in liberating DIRTY MONEY?

How are the financial collapses connected to the MAI?

How are international financial institutions destroying civil society?


Re: purchase of THE GLOBALIZATION OF POVERTY, by Michel Chossodovsky
published by Third World Network. $25.00 Canadian

Professor Chossodovky is making arrangements to have copies of his books
sent to the Defence of Canadian Liberty Committee for sale in Vancouver. We
expect to have them available within a few weeks. This book is on the
reading list of a number of political science programs. It is being
marketed in the Third World, US, Britain and Canada.

Connie Fogal, tel 604 687 0588 work; 604 872 2128 home


From: "Angela Denise Lemos" <•••@••.•••>
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Subject: Re: PGA Bulletin 1 March 97 / 1. Letter from the Geneva Wel
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 17:10:18 -0300
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Nergis Boman Irani had written:
  > I have always maintained that like the corporate world - it is time
 > the Greens united and that every won by the Greens, no matter where
> and no matter how small is a gigantic victory for all, who care.  I
> am very busy these days not only fighting our common enemy here in
> Dahanu, but creating the right ambience for the right sort of
> investments by anyone who is interested in joining hands with all of
> us including the tribals to continue sustainable development - as
> Dahanu is a perfect prototype for this sort of development.
 > We shall however work with you all - in any way, whichever way we can
  > and I shall now end this note by saying - I LOVE YOU ALL.

Dear Irani: I love you too! Congratulations for your
pro-active attitudes. Angela.


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