Dear rn, How's that for a provocative headline? How could the two items be be related? Stay tuned and it will all become clear... It all started when Bill Blum sent out the following message to a long list of his contacts, with Subject: "Does anyone else share my dilemma re the Elian case?" ------------------------------------------------------------ My dilemma: I'm still upset at the police brutality here in Washington last week toward the protesters, particularly after they were arrested, and the violations of constitutional rights before and after the arrests. And I get very upset when I read of various "law-enforcement" authorities smashing down people's front doors and intimidating, beating, and/or shooting the occupants, which happens on a regular, almost daily, basis in the land of the free, usually in a drug operation. But I was very pleased today to hear about the police breaking down the fence and the door of those Cubans in Miami, frightening people, pepper-spraying them, etc. and later the same with the protesters in the city, and arresting many of them. I'd be glad if any of you could convince me that that I'm not being hypocritical. But I'm still glad about what happened today because, besides Elian being returned to his father, I can't stand those simplistic jerks in Miami who would have the world believe that the US is the epitome of freedom and Cuba the epitome of dictatorship, when both statements are far from reality. Perhaps they've learned something. I open the floor for discussion. Bill Blum ------------------------------------------------------------ There were a range of responses. Here are some samples... ------------------------------------------------------------ I don't know what I'm doing on this list, but since you asked: Yes, Reno's raid is giving me Waco flashbacks. There had to be a better way. -- Barbeh ------------------------------------------------------------ I don't really think you need to worry about being hypocritical in this matter. After all, there was really no comparison between the LEVEL and VARIED FORMS of force deployed by the DC cops and their U.S. Park Police allies against those demonstrating peacefully in DC against the World Bank-IMF on the one hand, and the Miami Cubans mobilized by the Cuban American National Foundation who were simply using Elian as a vehicle to demonstrate against Fidel Castro before the world's media camped out there. If Lazaro and Marisleysis Gonzales are upset that Elian was awakened and taken from the house at 5:15 a.m., remember they are the ones who awakened Elian in the middle of the night and made that bizarre video of him wagging his finger at the camera and clearly being coached by others in the room on what to say. -- Louis Wolf ------------------------------------------------------------ I am not happy about anything that supports my view that if this country comes to government by terror, it will not be via fascism, which requires citizen organizations (SA, SS, fascisti, a mass Ku Klux Klan), not via military dictatorship, but via the ordinary, "legal", police: a police state. -- Bill Mandel ------------------------------------------------------------ My own response to Bill is below. all the best, rkm ============================================================================ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:03:23 +0000 To: Bill Blum <•••@••.•••> From: "Richard K. Moore" <•••@••.•••> Subject: re: convince me that that I'm not being hypocritical Cc: "Bill Blum's list":; Dear Bill & friends, Thanks, Bill, for raising some important issues. There is the Elan case itself, which has all sorts of political implications, and there is the fact of a creeping police state, which deserves considerably more attention in liberal circles. Your specific issue had to do with hypocrisy, and that's the issue I'd like to respond to. I would frame your concern this way... "What is the _price we pay when we compromise our principles for expediency?" At a psychological level the price, as you know yourself, is hypocrisy - a compromise with integrity. At a political level, the price is one that can be measured. One simply needs to review the overall transaction, and look for the bottom line. We were presented with yet-another staged Media Circus (shades of Rodney King, OJ, Thomas hearings, ...) and in the end we applaud a midnight raid by armed INS thugs using gratuitous violence against people in their own homes. That's the bottom line. As several others have observed, there were far less dramatic ways to obtain custody of Elan, and no reason to wait until things had reached such a state of crisis. What I am amazed by, in our discussion, is the seemingly universal assumption that all of this amounts to bungling and indecisiveness. Why do we so seldom consider the possibility that those who are running things know exactly what they're doing? ...and that from their point of view they have very sensible reasons? In "Killing Hope" you talk about what running an empire means _externally. There is an empire to run; it requires frequent military interventions; the public is not supposed to know that the empire exists; therefore most of the interventions are 'covert' (ie, known to everyone involved except the American people) -- and the rest are explained away by some cover story or the other ("retoring order", "protecting the downtrodden", ..). If one listens to the shallow and hypocritical cover stories, one might think U.S. foreign policy is a sequence of bungles. But as you show in your book, it's not bungling -- it's the running of empire. The bungling, for the most part, exists only in the matrix of media rhetoric. Running an empire also has an _internal side, and under globalization the front line of empire has crossed the Rubicon and come home to America. Seattle and DC were microcosms. A responsible segment of the population was saying, in a non-violent way, that "enough is enough" -- and the regime showed us how they respond to such a scenario: with suppression and with co-option.. Order _will be maintained with whatever force is necessary and without hesitation - that message is perfectly clear. The global system is too important to permit the citizens of Rome to interfere in its operations. That's the suppression part. The co-option part is all the nonsense about 'reforming' the IMF and making the WTO 'more transparent'. The only thing that's transparent are the lies. That which we complain about -- such as sweatshop oppression, the destruction of the world's forests, and the destabilization of economies worldwide -- those are the _successes of the IMF, the World Bank, and the WTO. Those are their _missions. That is how global capital is achieving its next round of growth, and capital growth has long been the driving force behind Western imperialism. Any change or 'reform' that is introduced voluntarily by the regime will simply be a reorganization to achieve greater efficieny -- and will have the side benefit of calming the domestic waters... "Something is being done", we are supposed to think, responding to media cues like so many sheep. (William Lederer, where are you now?) Co-option will work for some, but an increasing number -- represented by those in Seattle and DC -- aren't having it anymore. A real movement is starting, and its prospects for rapid growth are very favorable. The police behavior has been of great benefit to the movement thus far -- it has helped coalesce movement identity and solidarity, it has brought new recruits, and it has spurred the movement to build the mutual-support infrastructures that will become the basis of future collective action. This may not be obvious to all of us, but it is certainly obvious to those who run the WTO, call WTO meetings, and give the local police chiefs their marching orders. _They know the movement is going to get more serious politically, and _they know that police-state repression will be required to maintain their power. Oppressive regimes of various sorts have been the means of managing third-world client states for centuries, and the time has apparently come to apply those same methods domestically. That's what I mean by 'crossing the Rubicon'. The staged Elan drama sends out a message, the same message sent out from Seattle & DC. That message is: "Expect to see more of this... this is the way modern police do things." Supposedly a frog permits itself to be boiled to death -- as long as the heat is turned up gradually. I wonder what the frog thinks about? In our case we are given Elan to think about, distracting us as _they push our society that many degrees closer to being an outright police state, as William Mandel observed in his comments. From "bread & circuses" to "dot-com & Elan" -- Have we learned nothing in two thousand years? _They have their global institutions in place, and have been flexing their neocolonial interventionist muscles in Iraq, Yugoslavia and elsewhere. They have been systematically neutralizing the Bill of Rights with their 'Wars' On Crime & Drugs, and they have been turning the police into a paramilitary force. As regards _us, their intentions are clear: We can like it or we can lump it. The new emerging movement, pre-existing efforts notwithstanding, marks the beginning of the final struggle between global capitalism and the people of the world. The 'status quo' is no longer an option; Globalization has made that impossible. Either we let the project continue, leading to a dictatorial global regime, or we do something about it -- in which case we have a great many options indeed. No, Bill, this is not the time to applaud Gestapo tactics, even though I know your heart is in the right place. First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up - I wasn't a Communist; Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up - I wasn't a Jew; Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up - I wasn't a Catholic; Then they came for me - And there was no one left to speak up. Mussolini invented fascism, and its stated objective was to turn control over to corporations, who would then 'make the trains run on time'. Fascism is the appropriate name for the globalist regime we are being led toward, and it is time we woke up to that fact. best regards, rkm http://cyberjournal.org ============================================================================ To my response, there has already been a response: ------------------------------------------------------------ I really enjoyed your response to Bill. I agree with you 100 per cent. I'm finding too many progressives and liberals applauding that disgusting event in Miami. While agreeing the boy should have been returned to his father and knowing full well that community has held our Cuban policy hostage since the 60s, I don't agree with police state tactics (especially one week after being pepper sprayed in downtown DC- while covering the event as a journalist). I also did not agree with the religious tenets of the Branch Davidians, but think what the Government did would be called a major human rights violation if it took place in Kenya, Indonesia, China, or Cuba. Buried in the Elian case, is the fact that the Waco civil case is coming to a head (and no one is paying attention). The court hired a murky British contractor to study the film and they concluded no gun flashes were seen) -- perception management and diversionary tactics at work here. Then Seattle and Ruby Ridge. Your boiling frog example is perfect in describing what is happening throughout the country. The questionable polls also -- a corporate controlled coglomerate of media outlets produce these polls for their own (and the govenrment's ) purposes. Enjoyed your thoughts. ------------------------------------------------------------ ============================================================================ Richard K Moore Wexford, Ireland Citizens for a Democratic Renaissance email: •••@••.••• CDR website: http://cyberjournal.org cyberjournal archive: http://members.xoom.com/centrexnews/ book in progress: http://cyberjournal.org/cdr/gri.html A community will evolve only when the people control their means of communication. -- Frantz Fanon Capitalism is not the same as free enterprise - it is a very specialized ideology which holds the accumulation of wealth as the only economic value, and which demands that such economics dominate all other societal values. -- rkm Permission for non-commercial republishing hereby granted - BUT include and observe all restrictions, copyrights, credits, and notices - including this one. ============================================================================ .