-------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:10:50 -0800 From: Caspar Davis <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: Tom Atlee: processes for addressing specific issues To: •••@••.••• Thanks Richard. I did read Tom's post before, but this is a timely reminder. These issues are very active in Victoria. ----- Hi Caspar, I'm very impressed with what's going on in Victoria, and it was very good fortune I could be there for the Korten events. Has there been any media coverage of the WDC events or of the upcoming Wisdom Councils? Feel free to keep us informed as time permits. best of luck, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 05:04:32 -0800 From: •••@••.••• To: •••@••.••• Subject: Re: End of year report: The State of the World May I post this item at my blog? ------- hi similey, everything posted can be used elsewhere for non-commercial purposes, provided you include the source. cheers, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Greco -- CIRC2" <•••@••.•••> To: <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: End of year report: The State of the World Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:23:23 -0700 Dear Richard, Your view of the geopolitical situation and the prospects for the Great Transformation seems quite plausible to me.Thanks for painting such a vivid picture. The second Enlightenment has the benefit of almost three centuries of spiritual evolution, social and political experimentation, and technological development. I'm hopeful and optimistic that a determining number of change agents will be able to implement new fundamental structures that can shift the locus of power and the distribution of resources. Happy New Millennium, Tom Greco -------- Hi Tom, The scenarios were vivid, but as some have pointed out, predictions at this time are chancy. The only thing we can be sure of is that there will be big changes. At such a time many forces are at work, with non-linear interactions among them. I'm glad you can be optimistic. I am as well, but I think I'm basing it on refusal to give up more than a reasoned judgment. The change agents ultimately need to be all of us. In the meantime we need pre-change agents, people willing to experiment with dialog in their communities. happy new year to you and all, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 08:47:00 -0600 To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••> From: A Subject: Re: newslog: 6 Dec - 27 Dec 21 Dec - Gore steps up his hypocritical Presidential campaign http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=2014&lists=newslog Am curious about the title you gave the following item. The article in the Contra Costa Times (carried by truthout.org -- I looked at both to find zero about Gore stepping up his presidential campaign or anything about a hypocritical campaign) was about climate change and getting scientists to become more active in informing the public about their findings. Did you even read the article? The only thing I found even resembling a "campaign" was a plan for scientists to demonstrate at the White House before too long. ------------ To: A From: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: hypocritical campaign Gore is to global warming as Clinton was to universal health care and as Johnson was to ending the Vietnam War -- all are great vote-getting ploys and in none of the cases is there a snowball's chance in hell that anything useful would be accomplished. Gore is setting himself up to be the Great White Knight to save us from the Neocons. I knew as soon as his film came out what he was up to, and already overt talk of his campaign is beginning to surface... 14 Dec 2006 Gore considers presidential campaign http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1979&lists=newslog My choice of headlines is meant to be educational and to provoke thinking on the part of the reader. Also I'm thumbing my nose at the spin mainstream headlines put on on various stories. thanks for asking, richard ---------- Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:06:23 -0600 To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••> From: A You may be correct, Richard, although my intuition tells me that you are generalizing overmuch. Who, in your opinion, would accomplish "anything useful?" And what would be useful in your view? ----------- Hi again A, Our systems of production, distribution, and utilization are destroying the Earth. No program is useful in this context unless it seeks to transform those systems in radical ways. In the realm of transportation, for example, it would be useful to take all the money going into road-building and airport expansion and use it instead for the emergency development of efficient rail systems. If instead we are told about less-polluting automobile engines, we are hearing about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. In the realm of finance, it would be useful to take the major banks into receivership, cancel national debts, and put currencies on a new basis. Only such steps can restore economic sovereignty to nations, and enable them to marshal their resources as required for survival. If instead we hear about tax changes and subsidies...ditto. JFK was in pursuit of useful things. He starting printing Treasury Bills, cutting the Federal Reserve out of the loop. He announced plans to end the Cold War and to close down operations in Vietnam. His space program was about weaning industry away from weapons production. He was courageously aiming to make major system transformations. To the Establishment he had become a dangerous rogue, one they were not willing to tolerate. Gore is nothing like that. He is pure establishment through and through, just like Clinton. Universal health care would have been a direct assault on the astronomical profits of the healthcare, pharmaceutical, and insurance industries, and for that reason it could never have gotten beyond rhetoric. To do anything real about global warming would be a much broader assault on the whole profit system, something far beyond the pale for someone like Gore. Any program he launches will be about keeping the systems going longer (eg, more efficient cars), not about transforming it. And any such program will probably be contracted to the likes of Bechtel and Halliburton, who will siphon off trillions into various private pockets. I don't think I'm over-generalizing. thanks for the dialog, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephanie McDowall" <•••@••.•••> To: "'Richard Moore'" <•••@••.•••> Subject: FW: End of year report: The State of the World Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:55:58 -0800 Why do you think the West will end up saving the world? It's true the West has inflicted untold suffering on peoples all over the world starting long before the Middle East situation. We need only examine the British and American fruit companies and other corporations that have raped S. America, Africa, the Caribbean, not to mention India and Malaysia. We have been rotten to the core Richard....for centuries it seems. France, Portugal, Spain, Holland......all have stolen the resources of third world countries, enslaved the people etc. etc. just like Britain and the U.S. There is not too much to admire about Western Governments. Steph --------- Hi Stephanie, My point is that the world cannot be saved while Western governments remain as they are. If we achieve democracy in the West, then the West can lead the world toward peace. If we don't achieve democracy in the West, then imperialist forces will continue to destroy democracy elsewhere whenever it springs up, as they have always done in the past. cheers, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:35:11 -0800 To: •••@••.••• From: "Karl V. Amatneek" <•••@••.•••> Subject: Fwd: [globalnetnews-summary] Leo Tolstoy "The misapprehension springs from the fact that the learned jurists, deceiving themselves as well as others, depict in their books an ideal of government -- not as it really is, an assembly of men who oppress their fellow-citizens, but in accordance with the scientific postulate, as a body of men who act as the representatives of the rest of the nation. "They have gone on repeating this to others so long that they have ended by believing it themselves, and they really seem to think that justice is one of the duties of governments. "History, however, shows us that governments, as seen from the reign of Caesar to those of the two Napoleons and Prince Bismarck, are in their very essence a violation of justice; a man or a body of men having at command an army of trained soldiers, deluded creatures who are ready for any violence, and through whose agency they govern the State, will have no keen sense of the obligation of justice. Therefore governments will never consent to diminish the number of those well-trained and submissive servants, who constitute their power and influence." -- Leo Tolstoy -- Source: Writings on Civil Disobedience and Non-Violence (Signet Books, 1968), pp. 238-239. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Escaping the Matrix website http://escapingthematrix.org/ cyberjournal website http://cyberjournal.org subscribe cyberjournal list mailto:•••@••.••• Posting archives http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/ Blogs: cyberjournal forum http://cyberjournal-rkm.blogspot.com/ Achieving real democracy http://harmonization.blogspot.com/ for readers of ETM http://matrixreaders.blogspot.com/ Community Empowerment http://empowermentinitiatives.blogspot.com/ Blogger made easy http://quaylargo.com/help/ezblogger.html