Bcc: contributors. Website: http://cyberjournal.org Friends, This finishes off our Garden series. I want to thank everyone for participating. Tomorrow I'll be launching a new thread on the movement, its culture, and its prospects. all the best, rkm ============================================================================ From: •••@••.••• Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 18:18:39 EDT Subject: Re: re13: Returning to the Garden, mythologies, ideologies, etc. To: •••@••.••• very niceset of exchanges- a wonderful analysis about the use, effect, impact of stories. thanks for continuing to do so much to awaken so many. jim ============================================================================ Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 02:13:53 -0500 To: •••@••.••• From: Nan Hildreth <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: dialog re: A change of vision: returning to the Garden From: "John Bunzl" Date: Sat, 17 Mar Since now, generally speaking, the movement only sees symptoms, An "anti-corporate" group here in Houston, Texas got discouraged and quit meeting. Reactive is no fun. >it should not surprise us that it is, largely, a reflection of those symptoms: a rag-tag and fragmented army of NGOs and activist groups each addressing a particular but independent aspect of the globalisation vortex. Our movements are merging to a great river of change according to demographer Paul Ray and psychologist Sherry Anderson in Cultural Creatives. They are woven together by the Cultural Creatives. Are you one? Test yourself. http://www.culturalcreatives.org/questionnaire.html Typical Creatives belong to four different groups. My humble efforts are at weaving justice folks with environmentalists with self-actualization fans with global democracy activists. For discouraged Jeff, the last chapter of Cultural Creatives tells how we could win, complete with magnificent graphs. I loved it. Believable. I need to discuss it. Anyone? Will you all forgive us in Texas for the officials we elect? Britain had Gandhi to humble it. But we're hanging on to the old dreams of fabulous instant wealth from dumb luck. Will you pray for us here in Texas? It's a tough place to be an activist. Lots of pressure to conform or be cynical and cop out. ============ Dear Nan, I don't hold much store by the Cultural Creative analysis. We have a world which is obviously going insane, and people everywhere are responding to that in different ways. The response is not a 'social trend'; it's a natural response to an emergency. And 'voting blocks' have nothing to do with it. The revolution will reach far deeper than electoral politics. I suspect that the analysis comes from a liberal-chauvinist world view, which tends to discount the potential for revolutionary initiative from other segments. But, in honesty, I must admit I haven't read Ray and I could be totally off base. I read Korten's rendition of Ray's ideas, and I may be responding to the filter. rkm ============================================================================ Delivered-To: moderator for •••@••.••• Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Berliner <•••@••.•••> Reply-To: Guy Berliner <•••@••.•••> To: •••@••.••• Subject: reconciliation as part of progress Hi, Thanks to rkm for posting some excerpts from the cyberjournal list to indymedia. It makes for interesting reading. I wanted to say that I see the need for reconciliation between different points of view as necessary for progress. I see a movement for authentic participatory democracy gaining momentum in the world today. It's a hopeful sign. But it will require also reaching out and engaging even those who disagree, even those who hew to currently reigning neoliberal ideologies at cross-purposes with the democratization that we seek. A democracy must involve everyone. That is the only way to answer those who fear that embracing the collective good at the expense of the neoliberal exclusive reliance on "the market" must lead to some sort of Communist totalitarianism. As part of this process, I agree with those who have said on this list that an internal revolutionary struggle is as necessary as an external one. Everyone is welcome to choose what works for them. For me, Zen Buddhism provides my preferred methods of internal revolution. Outwardly, I hope this revolution will lead to more decentralized and self reliant yet interconnected local communities. I, too, hope that we can move towards a Wilberian ethos, in which human consciousness evolves towards a more inclusive view of reality, and that the positive and life-affirming elements of modernity are preserved and enhanced, but that we become more discriminating in choosing the shape of our social organizations than present day market political economies allow. In particular, the historic promise of socialism, that the fulfillment of the potential of each be the precondition for the fulfillment of all, must be honored, and not left to mere chance. This requires an active social commitment, and cannot be assumed to be an accidental byproduct or "epiphenomenon" of some abstract world system, whether capitalist or any other. ============ Dear Guy, I don't know who posted the excerpts to Indymedia, but I'm glad they did. Your point about 'active social commitment' is right on the mark. regards, rkm ============================================================================
